Keep skills after Rebirth.

I think we should be able to keep our skills after we rebirth. I'm not sure why it was removed/disabled, but if it makes the game too easy, then why not just cut the rates in half or even to 5x? Does it cause too many errors and crashes, or is it too hard to code (i.e. making sure only Sins/Dits get Shadow Partner or only DB gets Mirror Image to prevent errors/crashing)?

I was really sad after I rebirthed only to have someone tell me that we aren't allowed to keep skills. It really makes changing jobs a waste of time and really makes things even more boring since all you can do is rebirth for AP. Sure keeping skills will ultimately make everyone choose the same combinations, but as it current is, people will end up choosing the same OP jobs anyways.

Keeping skills, however, will make way for more creativity like: Aran using Dark Impale to charge up combos super fast, a DB/Shadower using a Purple Surfboard with Dark Impale and Mirror Image/Shadow Partner, Mage being able to cycle through all 5 15-mob ultimates, Assasin being able to use the LV1 Phantom Crossbow with Wild Hunter/Marskman skills + Shadow Partner, and all classes being able to use non-weapon dependent skills and buffs like Genesis and Sharp Eyes.

Since it's not easy to grind to 200 with the rates without HobKPQ, nothing would really change because I see people running around as Jett, for example, hitting the damage cap yet leveling at a steady rate-- nothing's going to change if these people have access to other skills because they would still be hitting the damage cap. If it's still too easy for newer players, why not cut the rates in half? That way it would be even harder to level up even with lots of skills and buffs to choose from-- re-birthing would then become more rewarding.

tl;dr version - Please bring back saving skills after rebirth, even if it means lowering the rates to 5x because the concept of keeping skills is awesome.

actually you can keep skills on your keyboard after you rebirth
you can still use some buff combonations together
but the easyist way to do this is using the donors #djob command
makes like alot easyier only problem is after you dc your skills get wiped
only keep the skills of your particular class

we can't do #djob we are not donors don't be stupid /facepalm and yes sometimes after dc skills get wiped

I'm confused. Is wiping the skills a bug or intentional?

Revenge wrote:we can't do #djob we are not donors don't be stupid /facepalm and yes sometimes after dc skills get wiped

He's not being stupid. He said it was the easiest way. Please don't call people unnecessary names.

MrPimppi wrote:but the easyist way to do this is using the donors #djob command

Revenge wrote:we can't do #djob we are not donors don't be stupid /facepalm and yes sometimes after dc skills get wiped

i didnt say everyone can do it LOL
i said that the easist way and thats to be a donor and use #djob lol
otherwize you would have to rebirth and when you dc you risk the chance of keys wipe
so the easist way is to donate and use #djob lol

Xuxion wrote:I'm confused. Is wiping the skills a bug or intentional?

intentional

Knives wrote:

Revenge wrote:we can't do #djob we are not donors don't be stupid /facepalm and yes sometimes after dc skills get wiped

He's not being stupid. He said it was the easiest way. Please don't call people unnecessary names.

MrPimppi wrote:but the easyist way to do this is using the donors #djob command

thanks knives lol atleast 1 person got what i was trying to say lol

Ah... so only Donators can use skills from multiple jobs after they've rebirthed.

I wonder if there's any chance that the privileged of using multiple job skills will be extended to normal players, even if it means lowering the rates or making another aspect of the game "harder" to compensate.

Xuxion wrote:Ah... so only Donators can use skills from multiple jobs after they've rebirthed.

I wonder if there's any chance that the privileged of using multiple job skills will be extended to normal players, even if it means lowering the rates or making another aspect of the game "harder" to compensate.

No,regular players too.All you gotta do is make sure the skills you wanted is still on the key setting so you can use it after you rebirth and donors can change their jobs without rebirthing.

Nah there is a way to keep your skills without donating C: not sure if it works but i hope it does.

1. Keep Skills In Keyboard.
2. Rebirth
3. ???
4. Profit.

†Decimo wrote:1. Keep Skills In Keyboard.
2. Rebirth
3. ???
4. Profit.

Then suffer from a server restart that wipes out the skills that aren't compatible with your current job/weapon. It's fairly irritating.

Revenge wrote:Nah there is a way to keep your skills without donating C: not sure if it works but i hope it does.

†Decimo wrote:1. Keep Skills In Keyboard.
2. Rebirth
3. ???
4. Profit.

Tenshi wrote:
No,regular players too.All you gotta do is make sure the skills you wanted is still on the key setting so you can use it after you rebirth and donors can change their jobs without rebirthing.

Unless I'm either confused or the whole system has been changed after I posted this suggestion, I don't think it works like this.

Rebirthing and keeping your hotkeys isn't allowed on this server. Sure it may work immediately after you rebirth, but once you save your character (cash shop or @save in town etc.) and log out all of the skills are gone. And with the server in beta, it is not practical to keep playing for long periods of time without saving your character due to server crashes, restarts, rollbacks, and attacks.

A few people have also told me the behavior of vanishing hotkeys upon saving and relogging is normal and intentional, because apparently, keeping skills makes the game "too easy" which is why I came up with this whole suggestion in the first place. I think we should be able to keep our skills/hotkeys after rebirths, even if we save our characters and log out.

i never @save because someone told me it what causes some of the rollbacks.

Revenge wrote:i never @save because someone told me it what causes some of the rollbacks.

I believe it was discovered in a certain error reporting thread that @save works under strict conditions. One of them being that you must be in a town like Henesys or it will roll you back (saving why leveling in a PQ, for example, will roll you back).

Anyways, I wonder if this suggesting is being seriously considered. It doesn't seem like anyone is really interested in keeping skills after you rebirth (and save/relog) because in-game people just seem to be fine with grinding, doing HobKPQ and repeating until no end with the same class. I feel that allowing us to keep skills will spice things up.

Am I the only one who wants to use skills from multiple jobs after rebirthing and have them be there the next time I play?

Not being able to keep your skills after you rebirth is like having sex ... alone.

No,i agree with this idea too.

to prevent keyboard wipe, you can use macros!
YES MACROS!

just put in macros your skill but you can take back to normal again you should play that macro over and over

Coldmen1 wrote:to prevent keyboard wipe, you can use macros!
YES MACROS!

just put in macros your skill but you can take back to normal again you should play that macro over and over

Interesting thought. However, I believe the problem is that after you relog, all skills are set to LV0 (excluding the current job skills) so even if you had Macros with skills from other jobs, they would do nothing when you try to use the macro.

Unless perhaps, someone can prove me wrong? I tried this with buffs and the buffs don't work, but I can't say the same for other skills.

Xuxion wrote:

Coldmen1 wrote:to prevent keyboard wipe, you can use macros!
YES MACROS!

just put in macros your skill but you can take back to normal again you should play that macro over and over

Interesting thought. However, I believe the problem is that after you relog, all skills are set to LV0 (excluding the current job skills) so even if you had Macros with skills from other jobs, they would do nothing when you try to use the macro.

Unless perhaps, someone can prove me wrong? I tried this with buffs and the buffs don't work, but I can't say the same for other skills.

No,you just use @maxskills or the skill maxer and everything get maxed and you can use it again.he is right it works