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Post by wsbbasterd on Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:28 am

Well like the title said i cant get online when there are about 40+ online. ._.
What can i do Dx !

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Post by ジョンWZエディタ♬ on Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:43 am

There are temporary connection problems.

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Post by wsbbasterd on Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:44 am

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There are temporary connection problems.

Ah okay that's why ;o ,,
Well thanks for telling me ;D !

Edit: Could that be because there is only 1 channel ?
Well anyway I'll just wait then n.n

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Post by ジョンWZエディタ♬ on Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:07 am

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ジョンWZエディタ♬ wrote:
There are temporary connection problems.

Ah okay thats why ;o ,,
Well thanks for telling me ;D !

Edit: Could that be because there is only 1 channel ?
Well anymay ill just wait then n.n
No, that's not the reason.
Main reason is DDoS from known people.

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Post by wsbbasterd on Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:16 am

Well you could send the police to his house if its a known person ,
DDoS is Quite illegal and the second of all there is no stopping a DDoS at all. ;o
Hope you get him fast :]

And so for the people that just got their account and stuff aren't able to get online right :] ?

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Post by ジョンWZエディタ♬ on Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:21 am

wsbbasterd wrote:Well you could send the police to his house if its a known person ,
DDoS is Quite illigal and the second of all there is no stoping a DDoS at all. ;o
Hope you get him fast :]

And so for the people that just got their account and stuff aren't able to get online right :] ?
By know it was meant : People from ''Server'' X.

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Post by ҳҲҳ ÐƐƔɪŁ ҳҲҳ on Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:26 am

I'm sorry but I'm fixing your spelling.

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Post by ジョンWZエディタ♬ on Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:33 am

ҳҲҳ ÐƐƔɪŁ ҳҲҳ wrote:I'm sorry but I'm fixing your spelling.
I hope you aren't fixing my spelling.

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Post by wsbbasterd on Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:34 am

ジョンWZエディタ♬ wrote:
wsbbasterd wrote:Well you could send the police to his house if its a known person ,
DDoS is Quite illigal and the second of all there is no stoping a DDoS at all. ;o
Hope you get him fast :]

And so for the people that just got their account and stuff aren't able to get online right :] ?
By know it was meant : People from ''Server'' X.

Ah you ment it that way. :]

ҳҲҳ ÐƐƔɪŁ ҳҲҳ wrote:I'm sorry but I'm fixing your spelling.

Who's spelling ? o.O

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Post by ҳҲҳ ÐƐƔɪŁ ҳҲҳ on Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:48 am

Your spelling also, DDOS is not illegal in anyway shape or form. Also you can stop a ddos attack by blocking ip. But the problem is there are too many ddosers who are using a vpn (virtual private network) so they can change their ip in a instance.

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Post by wsbbasterd on Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:06 am

ҳҲҳ ÐƐƔɪŁ ҳҲҳ wrote:Your spelling also, DDOS is not illegal in anyway shape or form. Also you can stop a ddos attack by blocking ip. But the problem is there are too many ddosers who are using a vpn (virtual private network) so they can change their ip in a instance.



None of famous and popular programs could escape the common lot of going off-line lately. As everybody knows, in the investors’ society this fact is interpreted as scam. Though, not always “disappearance” happens through admin’s or hosting’s faults. More often these are real trespassers’ attacks, aimed at shutting down the program. These are DDOS attacks. After such attacks programs inform that they were attacked, however, it happens so often that soon DDOS will be interpreted as the lame excuse. Too bad… one needs just to investigate.

Statistics shows that every 5 minutes there are 2 attacks in the world, aimed at disabling net resources. It can be competitors’ struggle, rivals’ dirty tricks, anything. Especially since there are lots of them in the HYIP world. Not mentioning the offended investors and other avengers, noble ones and vice versa.

DDOS attack – abbreviation from Distributed Denial Of Service Attack. The first mentioning about “deliberate” DDOS date from the year 1996, and closer to 1999, Amazon, Yahoo, CNN, eBay, E-Trade made the acquaintance of such kind of terrorism. What outstanding is there in this terrible kind of computer terrorism? It’s simple. Each of you, dear investors, has probably come across the situation when your computer started to work slower than usual. More often it has to do with processes’ usage. I.e. some programs, working at the same time or downloads from Internet. Now, just imagine, that the number of such processes is not ten – there are hundreds, thousands of them! And they all attack you poor PC.

Of course computers, supporting web-sites are much more powerful, but the number of processes it has to process during attacks sometimes exceeds multidigit numbers and powers. At the same time it’s easy to cause the process on server (the place where web-site under attack is located) “from the outside”… one just needs to send a request! Thousands of requests! Millions of requests! Sending them simultaneously (from 500 000 per second), trespassers simply put the server out of action and web site gets to be inaccessible.

No Syncinvest, no ONEinvest. It may seem strange on the one hand, cause sooner or later the site will get down to work again and will keep on working. Not everything is so easy. Organizing the attack properly by the group of qualified hackers, web site “buzzing” can last for some days. And the fact it will appear on forums in the SCAM section – is half-way to success.

The second half – of course these are financial losses, suffered by a program while being out of action. Can you imagine how much a program is losing, working without a break on-line with the funds, if 1 minute buzz of the resource, managing the production costs next to nothing $13 000. ONE MINUTE! The minute of the resource, managing the supplies costs $11 000, and the site, dealing with e-commerce – $10 000! Count please…

The attacks themselves are organized in the following way. First there was only one PC, one target, and… one program. Which was created to test the network capacity and their stability towards environmental stresses. It sent automatically requests of various complexities, and analysts measured the functioning of the network. Later on programs like that passed from hand to hand. And became available to ANYONE. You need it – download and use it.

Of course hackers couldn’t miss such a nice means. Originally, ordinary usage of such a program is ineffective, and it’s also not hard to “catch” such an attacker. That is why now requests are sent not from one PC, but from some of them. Application program is enriched with various protection rates. Further on, the simplest DDOS network (DDOS exactly, not DOS) is the NETWORK of computers, among which there are organizers, agents, “zombies”, and directly attacking PC. The signal to start attack is given from the main computer, via agents to “zombie” and attack begins. The worst and the most insulting is that any computer may be “zombi”, even yours… how do you like it?

The thing is that sending such a quantity of requests is physically impossible from one PC. Although, it may be possible, but the PC should be very powerful. And it makes no sense – while struggling HYIP can reject any requests from this or that IP address, working further on. Hacker needs thousands, ten thousands of computers to form the group? Where to take them? Anywhere… virus warnings we are writing to you all the time is not just for your personal security.

As the professionals say virus itself is not so awful. But when a dangerous weapon is made of your computer – this is serious. Computer is infected with virus, which remains silent for the time being. Though as soon as the hacker gives signal it starts to send requests at the times fixed. You can even miss that! And, tracing the feedback, maximum possibility – it is your computer. But it is also considered to be a victim.

Of course not the program itself organizes attacks. It’s not profitable to have such experienced and professional programmers as employees. They are just hired. And hackers’ job costs pretty penny, though everything depends on who is attacked. For example, blocking microsoft for a week costs from 80 thousand dollars. Sometimes attackers use another tactics.

They just halt the work of the site and ask for a redemption-fee. Who knows, maybe recent events are just the series of consequent actions? The thing is that the most popular and really serious programs have been subjected to attacks. Maybe somebody demands the redemption-fee from them now? Anything may happen. Time will show. Let’s hope they will slip out.

And to slip out not just money are needed. One also needs to have a good staff of programmers and reliable, working properly security. Though, the specialists say, there’s no guaranteed protection form these attacks. Any site can be blocked. Hence the time a program will “fight off” the trespassers bluntly speaking depends on these two components.

n both the UK and the US it's specifically prohibited, by the Police and justice act 2006 in the former, and the Computer Fraud and Abuse act in the latter. Most other countries have similar laws. As for international DDoS, it depends on whether the victim can push for the case to be heard under their laws, since the law was broken in that country, regardless of the laws elsewhere (an example of this, not strictly DDoS, but still digital to another country would be the pirate bay case).

That’s all I think. :]

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Post by ҳҲҳ ÐƐƔɪŁ ҳҲҳ on Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:13 am

lulz way to wiki ddos. Do you personally even know what a ddos attack does? It prevents you from seeing information. it is in no way shape or form a hack. So basically what Wikipedia is saying that if i block someone from seeing something, then I'm breaking the law.

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Post by wsbbasterd on Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:19 am

ҳҲҳ ÐƐƔɪŁ ҳҲҳ wrote:lulz way to wiki ddos. Do you personally even know what a ddos attack does? It prevents you from seeing information. it is in no way shape or form a hack. So basically what Wikipedia is saying that if i block someone from seeing something, then I'm breaking the law.

Lollzzz even with a DDOS attack you can acces people's computers and take information -_- ..

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Post by ҳҲҳ ÐƐƔɪŁ ҳҲҳ on Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:23 am

no you can't. that is keylogging. Now go wiki keylogging. Also by what Wikipedia said, when Steve jobs died, Apple.com went down because to many users were flooding the site. So by Wikipedia, all of those people are breaking the law. Good job Wikipedia. Also don't even try to talk about ddosing and hacking with me cause I will just prove how much of a noob u are.

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Post by wsbbasterd on Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:29 am

ҳҲҳ ÐƐƔɪŁ ҳҲҳ wrote:no you can't. that is keylogging. Now go wiki keylogging. Also by what Wikipedia said, when Steve jobs died, Apple.com went down because to many users were flooding the site. So by Wikipedia, all of those people are breaking the law. Good job Wikipedia. Also don't even try to talk about ddosing and hacking with me cause I will just prove how much of a noob u are.

Uh Tbh try searching that info on wiki , :]
Seriously dont get all cocky cuz your trying to prove your point.

Attempts to "flood" web applications, thereby preventing legitimate user traffic
Attempts to disrupt service to a specific system or person, e.g., blocking user access by repeated invalid login attempts resulting in the account's suspension
Jamming the application-database connection by crafting CPU-intensive SQL queries

Risks :

Network bandwidth
Server memory
Application exception handling mechanism
CPU usage
Hard disk space
Database space
Database connection pool

Extortion: Attackers threaten to continue disrupting service until payment is received.
Sabotage: Competing businesses attack web sites to build a stronger market share.
Brand damage: Sites that are attacked find that their reputation is hurt by lack of uptime or the perception that the site is not secure.
Financial losses: Sites that are attacked are prevented from doing business online. The result is often a loss in sales revenue or advertising revenue. (Which is Illigal -_-)
Other attacks: Information gathered from a successful Denial of Service attack can be used later to further attack a web site. Additionally, other vulnerabilities may be used to launch a DoS attack providing the attacker with access to more than they had originally intended.


Seriously i could go on and on and on -_- !

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Post by khuddin1992 on Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:36 am

seriously stop copy from wikipedia <_<

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Post by ҳҲҳ ÐƐƔɪŁ ҳҲҳ on Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:37 am

lulz i can go on and on and on and on and on as well. It's so simple to find this info. lets google all of this info. please tell me how on earth that a dos attack will give me access to another computer. Seeing how i've been ddosing for over 3 years. Been hacking for 4 years. wanna get on someone's computer? rat them or keylog them. wanna get someone's files, sql inject them. ddos makes u not able to access the site or host not.

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Post by Sardine on Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:26 am

I don't care if this is locked but, I'll just say what I want to say:

A DDOS attack prevents actual users from getting on the server.
It in no way allows someone to access the server, as a DDOS attack is just beating someone down until they can't talk or hit back at you anymore.

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Post by ҳҲҳ ÐƐƔɪŁ ҳҲҳ on Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:27 am

Didn't i already prove that willi. -_- but anyways she doesn't know what she is talking about. Has to wikipedia everything.

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